1 00:00:07,030 --> 00:00:05,030 good morning and welcome back to the us 2 00:00:08,950 --> 00:00:07,040 army's white sands missile range near 3 00:00:11,030 --> 00:00:08,960 las cruces new mexico this is our 4 00:00:13,030 --> 00:00:11,040 post-launch news conference for the 5 00:00:15,589 --> 00:00:13,040 paddleboard one flight test which is a 6 00:00:17,109 --> 00:00:15,599 test of the orion launch abort system we 7 00:00:18,950 --> 00:00:17,119 are going to introduce our panelists 8 00:00:22,550 --> 00:00:18,960 here who will have some opening remarks 9 00:00:27,429 --> 00:00:23,590 we'll take 10 00:00:29,589 --> 00:00:27,439 reporters in the audience and also on 11 00:00:34,870 --> 00:00:29,599 the line from the johnson space center 12 00:00:38,869 --> 00:00:37,110 with that all introduced uh doug cook 13 00:00:41,110 --> 00:00:38,879 from nasa headquarters he's the 14 00:00:44,790 --> 00:00:41,120 associate administrator of the 15 00:00:47,510 --> 00:00:44,800 exploration system's mission directorate 16 00:00:50,150 --> 00:00:47,520 as well as mark guyer the manager of the 17 00:00:51,910 --> 00:00:50,160 orion project at the nasa johnson space 18 00:00:54,229 --> 00:00:51,920 center in houston 19 00:00:56,310 --> 00:00:54,239 and don reid the manager of the flight 20 00:00:58,069 --> 00:00:56,320 test office in the orion project office 21 00:00:59,990 --> 00:00:58,079 and also served as the test director 22 00:01:02,470 --> 00:01:00,000 this morning 23 00:01:04,149 --> 00:01:02,480 and to the his left is the brigadier 24 00:01:06,070 --> 00:01:04,159 general john reagan who's the commander 25 00:01:07,990 --> 00:01:06,080 here at the white sands missile range so 26 00:01:08,870 --> 00:01:08,000 we'll start out with comments from doug 27 00:01:11,590 --> 00:01:08,880 thank you 28 00:01:13,510 --> 00:01:11,600 um obviously it's a very big day for the 29 00:01:15,590 --> 00:01:13,520 exploration team it looked to be 30 00:01:18,710 --> 00:01:15,600 flawless from my point of view 31 00:01:19,910 --> 00:01:18,720 it was it's a very complex system 32 00:01:22,070 --> 00:01:19,920 it's the first 33 00:01:24,070 --> 00:01:22,080 this first abort system the us has 34 00:01:26,630 --> 00:01:24,080 developed since apollo but it's much 35 00:01:28,310 --> 00:01:26,640 more advanced it has more capability 36 00:01:30,710 --> 00:01:28,320 advanced technologies 37 00:01:31,910 --> 00:01:30,720 that will be of value to us in the 38 00:01:33,910 --> 00:01:31,920 future 39 00:01:36,310 --> 00:01:33,920 we were never able to to put any kind of 40 00:01:38,310 --> 00:01:36,320 a real abort system on shuttle but for 41 00:01:41,429 --> 00:01:38,320 the future vehicles this is this is 42 00:01:44,870 --> 00:01:41,439 capability that that we'll have and have 43 00:01:46,870 --> 00:01:44,880 now demonstrated um and just looked just 44 00:01:49,429 --> 00:01:46,880 looked terrific and i really appreciate 45 00:01:51,510 --> 00:01:49,439 the efforts of the of the the entire 46 00:01:55,190 --> 00:01:51,520 team uh all my management chain from 47 00:01:57,510 --> 00:01:55,200 jeff hanley to mark and don and and i i 48 00:01:59,350 --> 00:01:57,520 really appreciate the work of all the 49 00:02:00,389 --> 00:01:59,360 all the industry team with the lockheed 50 00:02:04,630 --> 00:02:00,399 martin 51 00:02:07,190 --> 00:02:04,640 and atk and aerojet and orbital 52 00:02:09,669 --> 00:02:07,200 with cleon and and all of that all the 53 00:02:11,830 --> 00:02:09,679 industry team 54 00:02:14,070 --> 00:02:11,840 it's a tremendous effort to get to this 55 00:02:16,229 --> 00:02:14,080 point it was a complex system there were 56 00:02:18,949 --> 00:02:16,239 some hurdles and they've been workers 57 00:02:20,390 --> 00:02:18,959 working on this for um 58 00:02:23,110 --> 00:02:20,400 about four years 59 00:02:25,430 --> 00:02:23,120 and so uh is i really appreciate the 60 00:02:27,430 --> 00:02:25,440 amount of uh dedication and focus and 61 00:02:28,309 --> 00:02:27,440 getting to this point today and and 62 00:02:36,550 --> 00:02:28,319 the 63 00:02:38,390 --> 00:02:36,560 can talk more details so i do appreciate 64 00:02:41,589 --> 00:02:38,400 all their work i appreciate the white 65 00:02:43,750 --> 00:02:41,599 sands missile range for for hosting this 66 00:02:46,150 --> 00:02:43,760 and being a part of the team as well 67 00:02:47,830 --> 00:02:46,160 they've done a terrific job appreciate 68 00:02:49,589 --> 00:02:47,840 all the work by everybody who organized 69 00:02:51,750 --> 00:02:49,599 this today 70 00:02:53,589 --> 00:02:51,760 because it's a big effort too to 71 00:02:55,190 --> 00:02:53,599 for all the logistics and everything but 72 00:02:59,110 --> 00:02:55,200 but it's a tremendous team effort all 73 00:03:00,630 --> 00:02:59,120 the way around so appreciate it everyone 74 00:03:02,550 --> 00:03:00,640 mark 75 00:03:03,990 --> 00:03:02,560 well gosh okay 76 00:03:06,149 --> 00:03:04,000 i had to write some things down because 77 00:03:07,990 --> 00:03:06,159 it's such a great day i'm having trouble 78 00:03:09,589 --> 00:03:08,000 keeping my brain focused 79 00:03:11,830 --> 00:03:09,599 um 80 00:03:14,149 --> 00:03:11,840 doug mentioned it an escape system is 81 00:03:16,710 --> 00:03:14,159 such a huge part of human rating 82 00:03:18,550 --> 00:03:16,720 for systems in the future as america 83 00:03:20,550 --> 00:03:18,560 continues to lead in space 84 00:03:22,790 --> 00:03:20,560 so testing those systems out is a huge 85 00:03:24,630 --> 00:03:22,800 step of of the for the orion project 86 00:03:25,990 --> 00:03:24,640 itself uh doug mentioned it's been a 87 00:03:27,030 --> 00:03:26,000 long time since we've done that and 88 00:03:29,910 --> 00:03:27,040 today 89 00:03:31,589 --> 00:03:29,920 this uh the highly talented team showed 90 00:03:33,830 --> 00:03:31,599 that we can do it that we can put these 91 00:03:35,830 --> 00:03:33,840 systems together and make them work and 92 00:03:38,149 --> 00:03:35,840 make our systems safer for the crew and 93 00:03:39,990 --> 00:03:38,159 better for the uh for the united states 94 00:03:41,190 --> 00:03:40,000 um doug mentioned already the great team 95 00:03:43,670 --> 00:03:41,200 i also want to 96 00:03:45,830 --> 00:03:43,680 call out cleon lacefield a huge amount 97 00:03:48,869 --> 00:03:45,840 of work leading this commercial industry 98 00:03:50,789 --> 00:03:48,879 team orbital lockheed atk aerojet 99 00:03:53,270 --> 00:03:50,799 honeywell there's a great team on the 100 00:03:55,190 --> 00:03:53,280 nasa side as well across the the major 101 00:03:56,470 --> 00:03:55,200 centers who are a huge part of pulling 102 00:03:58,710 --> 00:03:56,480 this all together 103 00:04:00,390 --> 00:03:58,720 and as well as our work with uh with the 104 00:04:02,309 --> 00:04:00,400 general here at the army great a great 105 00:04:03,509 --> 00:04:02,319 team and what's exciting now about the 106 00:04:05,589 --> 00:04:03,519 success 107 00:04:06,869 --> 00:04:05,599 is that they get to share in that 108 00:04:08,789 --> 00:04:06,879 and they get to look at the great work 109 00:04:10,470 --> 00:04:08,799 they've done and it's it's obvious to 110 00:04:12,149 --> 00:04:10,480 everyone else 111 00:04:14,229 --> 00:04:12,159 one of the things about these tests it's 112 00:04:16,069 --> 00:04:14,239 we do a lot of testing on the ground you 113 00:04:17,430 --> 00:04:16,079 test motors by themselves to see how 114 00:04:20,310 --> 00:04:17,440 they work you test computers by 115 00:04:22,469 --> 00:04:20,320 themselves but what what this test why 116 00:04:24,390 --> 00:04:22,479 it's hard is you put them all together 117 00:04:26,150 --> 00:04:24,400 you take your computers you take your 118 00:04:28,550 --> 00:04:26,160 attitude control motor and you decide to 119 00:04:31,510 --> 00:04:28,560 accelerate them at 15 g's and blare them 120 00:04:33,270 --> 00:04:31,520 with 163 dbs and they all got to work 121 00:04:35,430 --> 00:04:33,280 and the team did such a flawless job 122 00:04:46,790 --> 00:04:35,440 today it worked great and so it's a huge 123 00:04:50,629 --> 00:04:48,870 so so i'm done talking and we'll hand it 124 00:04:52,310 --> 00:04:50,639 over the man of the hour who made it all 125 00:05:00,629 --> 00:04:52,320 come together don reid thank you mark 126 00:05:04,150 --> 00:05:02,230 i'm too tired so i didn't write any 127 00:05:05,909 --> 00:05:04,160 notes down so i'll just add a little bit 128 00:05:08,390 --> 00:05:05,919 here but 129 00:05:09,110 --> 00:05:08,400 i'm very proud of this team 130 00:05:10,950 --> 00:05:09,120 like 131 00:05:13,110 --> 00:05:10,960 doug said we've been working well over 132 00:05:15,670 --> 00:05:13,120 four years to bring this together 133 00:05:17,590 --> 00:05:15,680 it's been a very complex uh 134 00:05:18,870 --> 00:05:17,600 joint team from all across nasa and 135 00:05:21,670 --> 00:05:18,880 industry 136 00:05:23,270 --> 00:05:21,680 and we all came together it's a very 137 00:05:25,990 --> 00:05:23,280 dedicated 138 00:05:29,189 --> 00:05:26,000 professional team that has sacrificed a 139 00:05:33,110 --> 00:05:31,110 so my heart goes out to the 140 00:05:35,110 --> 00:05:33,120 families and the people that that help 141 00:05:36,710 --> 00:05:35,120 make this possible today 142 00:05:38,710 --> 00:05:36,720 it's a great day for the country for 143 00:05:39,749 --> 00:05:38,720 nasa for industry 144 00:05:41,749 --> 00:05:39,759 and then 145 00:05:44,150 --> 00:05:41,759 going back to what doug said yes it was 146 00:05:47,430 --> 00:05:44,160 absolutely successful 147 00:05:48,950 --> 00:05:47,440 from my viewpoint inside the control 148 00:05:50,390 --> 00:05:48,960 van there we didn't see anything 149 00:05:52,870 --> 00:05:50,400 anomalous 150 00:05:55,110 --> 00:05:52,880 everything worked as it was expected in 151 00:05:57,510 --> 00:05:55,120 fact we actually touched down that 152 00:05:59,110 --> 00:05:57,520 uh significantly less velocity than we 153 00:06:01,510 --> 00:05:59,120 had predicted so 154 00:06:03,110 --> 00:06:01,520 so the performance was just absolutely 155 00:06:05,749 --> 00:06:03,120 astounding 156 00:06:08,070 --> 00:06:05,759 and we have a lot of relieved and very 157 00:06:09,270 --> 00:06:08,080 happy people out there to see all this 158 00:06:11,830 --> 00:06:09,280 hard work 159 00:06:13,590 --> 00:06:11,840 that they've done come to fruition 160 00:06:15,189 --> 00:06:13,600 now we can go get all the data that 161 00:06:18,150 --> 00:06:15,199 we're able to collect from this flight 162 00:06:19,990 --> 00:06:18,160 go back and look at our models validate 163 00:06:21,749 --> 00:06:20,000 what we predicted and take the lessons 164 00:06:23,990 --> 00:06:21,759 learned here and apply to 165 00:06:26,309 --> 00:06:24,000 whatever the future abort system is to 166 00:06:28,870 --> 00:06:26,319 for the next vehicle so 167 00:06:30,870 --> 00:06:28,880 so thanks to everybody and i'm so proud 168 00:06:41,909 --> 00:06:30,880 of this team it's a great accomplishment 169 00:06:46,710 --> 00:06:44,550 it's been a great honor and a privilege 170 00:06:49,110 --> 00:06:46,720 for our workforce to support this 171 00:06:51,830 --> 00:06:49,120 wonderful team that 172 00:06:54,550 --> 00:06:51,840 is that whose leadership is up here 173 00:06:57,350 --> 00:06:54,560 with me uh but who's out there and made 174 00:07:00,070 --> 00:06:57,360 this great success happen uh we in white 175 00:07:01,990 --> 00:07:00,080 sands have a great history of testing 176 00:07:03,990 --> 00:07:02,000 dating back to 177 00:07:05,990 --> 00:07:04,000 the manhattan project and the first 178 00:07:08,710 --> 00:07:06,000 trinity test site here 179 00:07:11,670 --> 00:07:08,720 v2 rockets and so we know how important 180 00:07:13,990 --> 00:07:11,680 testing is and it's just great to have 181 00:07:16,390 --> 00:07:14,000 this added to our history here and thank 182 00:07:18,230 --> 00:07:16,400 you so much for coming here today 183 00:07:21,430 --> 00:07:18,240 and the department of defense too we 184 00:07:23,589 --> 00:07:21,440 know how important testing uh is uh we 185 00:07:25,990 --> 00:07:23,599 of course test our weapon systems out 186 00:07:28,230 --> 00:07:26,000 here to make sure that they deliver uh 187 00:07:30,309 --> 00:07:28,240 for our soldiers in the field and we're 188 00:07:32,790 --> 00:07:30,319 just pleased to be a part of nasa as 189 00:07:35,589 --> 00:07:32,800 well and supporting this test uh 190 00:07:36,710 --> 00:07:35,599 so that uh your systems uh prove their 191 00:07:39,909 --> 00:07:36,720 metal uh 192 00:07:41,670 --> 00:07:39,919 in this test and can and can be used in 193 00:07:50,869 --> 00:07:41,680 in the future thanks very much for 194 00:07:54,790 --> 00:07:52,710 i just have one go back okay i did want 195 00:07:56,390 --> 00:07:54,800 to say um real quick one quick go back 196 00:07:59,350 --> 00:07:56,400 before we go to questions 197 00:08:00,390 --> 00:07:59,360 um so orion is by itself doesn't have 198 00:08:02,390 --> 00:08:00,400 much meaning right it's part of an 199 00:08:04,309 --> 00:08:02,400 architecture it's part of a system 200 00:08:05,670 --> 00:08:04,319 and and we wouldn't be here today 201 00:08:07,510 --> 00:08:05,680 without the the management and 202 00:08:08,950 --> 00:08:07,520 integration of that total system so i 203 00:08:11,350 --> 00:08:08,960 want to i want to thank jeff hanley for 204 00:08:12,790 --> 00:08:11,360 his leadership of the program and doug 205 00:08:14,309 --> 00:08:12,800 for his leadership at the exploration 206 00:08:16,150 --> 00:08:14,319 level because we wouldn't be here 207 00:08:26,869 --> 00:08:16,160 without their guidance and help 208 00:08:30,790 --> 00:08:28,550 with that we'll start with our questions 209 00:08:33,509 --> 00:08:30,800 here if the media have uh questions you 210 00:08:35,430 --> 00:08:33,519 can come up to the mic 211 00:08:36,790 --> 00:08:35,440 and if you can uh state your first your 212 00:08:38,469 --> 00:08:36,800 name and affiliation and then direct 213 00:08:41,029 --> 00:08:38,479 your question to somebody if you can 214 00:08:44,550 --> 00:08:41,039 yeah leonard david with space.com and 215 00:08:47,030 --> 00:08:44,560 aia aerospace america magazine um just 216 00:08:48,710 --> 00:08:47,040 curious with all the congressional 217 00:08:50,550 --> 00:08:48,720 and political 218 00:08:52,790 --> 00:08:50,560 cloud around 219 00:08:55,190 --> 00:08:52,800 consolation the program to what degree 220 00:08:57,350 --> 00:08:55,200 do you think you can dial back or scale 221 00:09:00,949 --> 00:08:57,360 up what you've learned here today how 222 00:09:03,509 --> 00:09:00,959 will it be applied to other systems 223 00:09:04,790 --> 00:09:03,519 yeah i think it's a great question um 224 00:09:06,870 --> 00:09:04,800 so 225 00:09:09,110 --> 00:09:06,880 there are key parts of of launch abort 226 00:09:10,550 --> 00:09:09,120 one you need to get out of the way quick 227 00:09:12,230 --> 00:09:10,560 two you need to make sure that you can 228 00:09:14,070 --> 00:09:12,240 steer it so you safely get out of the 229 00:09:15,590 --> 00:09:14,080 way and three you need to make sure that 230 00:09:17,829 --> 00:09:15,600 you have a chance to get the parachutes 231 00:09:19,590 --> 00:09:17,839 out so no matter what the size is you've 232 00:09:21,269 --> 00:09:19,600 got to integrate that system 233 00:09:24,230 --> 00:09:21,279 so i think the key part about this 234 00:09:26,389 --> 00:09:24,240 regardless of the thrust level is we've 235 00:09:28,310 --> 00:09:26,399 shown you can put those disparate pieces 236 00:09:29,350 --> 00:09:28,320 together in an integrated system with 237 00:09:31,750 --> 00:09:29,360 the computers and everything else and 238 00:09:34,710 --> 00:09:31,760 make them work so i think it's obviously 239 00:09:37,590 --> 00:09:34,720 very much applicable to any other system 240 00:09:40,630 --> 00:09:37,600 yes i i agree uh and the data that we 241 00:09:43,430 --> 00:09:40,640 get back um we get i think there are 700 242 00:09:45,430 --> 00:09:43,440 measurements on on this vehicle and 243 00:09:47,829 --> 00:09:45,440 we'll get data back on the aero aero 244 00:09:49,990 --> 00:09:47,839 acoustics we'll understand how the how 245 00:09:51,509 --> 00:09:50,000 the guidance worked exactly although it 246 00:09:54,150 --> 00:09:51,519 looked like it was rock solid from where 247 00:09:57,030 --> 00:09:54,160 i where i was 248 00:09:58,150 --> 00:09:57,040 and in materials and advancements and 249 00:10:03,190 --> 00:09:58,160 and 250 00:10:05,430 --> 00:10:03,200 being able to drive this vehicle away 251 00:10:06,470 --> 00:10:05,440 from some something you want to get away 252 00:10:08,550 --> 00:10:06,480 from 253 00:10:11,030 --> 00:10:08,560 this is all knowledge we'll be able to 254 00:10:13,269 --> 00:10:11,040 test our models that predict that going 255 00:10:14,710 --> 00:10:13,279 predicting all of these effects 256 00:10:16,949 --> 00:10:14,720 one one big 257 00:10:18,550 --> 00:10:16,959 question in my mind has been 258 00:10:21,030 --> 00:10:18,560 what are the jet interactions with the 259 00:10:23,509 --> 00:10:21,040 flow around the vehicle and 260 00:10:26,069 --> 00:10:23,519 and so we had had the big 261 00:10:30,230 --> 00:10:26,079 we had the big engines blowing and we 262 00:10:34,630 --> 00:10:32,630 guiding it intermittently and so we'll 263 00:10:36,630 --> 00:10:34,640 get a lot of data on understanding uh 264 00:10:37,990 --> 00:10:36,640 that that kind of information that's 265 00:10:40,470 --> 00:10:38,000 that's one of the bigger uncertainties 266 00:10:43,670 --> 00:10:40,480 so that's all data that we now have uh 267 00:10:48,550 --> 00:10:46,870 okay we have another question 268 00:10:51,269 --> 00:10:48,560 seeing that your local oh you have one 269 00:10:55,030 --> 00:10:53,110 could you uh somebody talk about in an 270 00:10:57,030 --> 00:10:55,040 ideal world how many more tests would 271 00:10:59,110 --> 00:10:57,040 you like to carry out before you feel 272 00:11:00,790 --> 00:10:59,120 like the system is completely 273 00:11:03,269 --> 00:11:00,800 ready and operational 274 00:11:04,949 --> 00:11:03,279 and a secondary question for 275 00:11:07,030 --> 00:11:04,959 any of you i was wondering could you 276 00:11:09,590 --> 00:11:07,040 just describe for us uh layman what was 277 00:11:10,949 --> 00:11:09,600 going through your mind or your body 278 00:11:12,310 --> 00:11:10,959 what emotions were you feeling there's a 279 00:11:13,910 --> 00:11:12,320 lot riding on this it all happens 280 00:11:15,590 --> 00:11:13,920 extremely fast and a lot of things have 281 00:11:16,949 --> 00:11:15,600 to fall into place correctly 282 00:11:18,310 --> 00:11:16,959 what was going through your mind as all 283 00:11:20,630 --> 00:11:18,320 this was unfolding 284 00:11:22,389 --> 00:11:20,640 well i was taking a lot of deep breaths 285 00:11:24,389 --> 00:11:22,399 trying to calm myself down in fact i 286 00:11:26,470 --> 00:11:24,399 actually started writing down some data 287 00:11:28,550 --> 00:11:26,480 and the procedures just to kind of calm 288 00:11:30,389 --> 00:11:28,560 myself down and you know we've been 289 00:11:31,910 --> 00:11:30,399 there many times 290 00:11:34,870 --> 00:11:31,920 you know we've gone through this we've 291 00:11:37,110 --> 00:11:34,880 done these countdowns numerous times and 292 00:11:38,870 --> 00:11:37,120 the reality sinks in and so the old 293 00:11:40,949 --> 00:11:38,880 blood pressure goes up and 294 00:11:42,470 --> 00:11:40,959 and you you really yeah it took a lot to 295 00:11:43,910 --> 00:11:42,480 say okay i can do this 296 00:11:49,430 --> 00:11:43,920 you know 297 00:11:51,430 --> 00:11:49,440 and so but very exciting time and it 298 00:11:53,030 --> 00:11:51,440 actually was relatively calm which we 299 00:11:55,509 --> 00:11:53,040 had hoped it would and the reason is is 300 00:11:56,790 --> 00:11:55,519 because we practice this over and over 301 00:11:59,190 --> 00:11:56,800 and so 302 00:12:01,190 --> 00:11:59,200 so yeah then the nerves were really 303 00:12:05,750 --> 00:12:01,200 uptight and 304 00:12:10,790 --> 00:12:07,990 yeah so i can speak to that i can talk 305 00:12:13,030 --> 00:12:10,800 to the plan that we had we we had 306 00:12:15,350 --> 00:12:13,040 two ascent aborts that we had planned to 307 00:12:17,990 --> 00:12:15,360 do we we wanted to do the transonic 308 00:12:19,990 --> 00:12:18,000 abort that's where we really 309 00:12:22,150 --> 00:12:20,000 challenged the thrust capability of the 310 00:12:23,910 --> 00:12:22,160 board motor that get back gets back to 311 00:12:25,590 --> 00:12:23,920 what mark said that's your maximum drag 312 00:12:28,550 --> 00:12:25,600 condition so you have to have maximum 313 00:12:30,310 --> 00:12:28,560 thrust to get the separation distance 314 00:12:32,069 --> 00:12:30,320 so that's how you size the thrust of the 315 00:12:34,389 --> 00:12:32,079 abort motor then the next one is the 316 00:12:36,629 --> 00:12:34,399 maximum dynamic pressure 317 00:12:38,310 --> 00:12:36,639 is where you challenge the structure as 318 00:12:40,550 --> 00:12:38,320 well as the ability of the attitude 319 00:12:42,710 --> 00:12:40,560 control motor to uh to control the 320 00:12:44,870 --> 00:12:42,720 launch port vehicle 321 00:12:46,870 --> 00:12:44,880 and then we would do another pad abort 322 00:12:49,430 --> 00:12:46,880 with the actual production systems to 323 00:12:51,350 --> 00:12:49,440 validate the design in a production 324 00:12:54,470 --> 00:12:51,360 in a paddle board scenario that drives 325 00:12:56,389 --> 00:12:54,480 the total impulse of the motor to 326 00:12:59,030 --> 00:12:56,399 guarantee you get appropriate altitude 327 00:13:00,870 --> 00:12:59,040 and downrange distance to a lot's got to 328 00:13:02,790 --> 00:13:00,880 happen as you saw so you'd want to 329 00:13:04,870 --> 00:13:02,800 validate with the production system that 330 00:13:10,150 --> 00:13:04,880 in fact you can do everything in the 331 00:13:15,590 --> 00:13:13,509 okay were there any more follow-ups here 332 00:13:17,430 --> 00:13:15,600 hi there daniel novik with k-fox tv in 333 00:13:19,110 --> 00:13:17,440 el paso i guess a follow-up to that 334 00:13:20,790 --> 00:13:19,120 question so now 335 00:13:23,110 --> 00:13:20,800 is all that up in the air 336 00:13:26,389 --> 00:13:23,120 you know are we are we on schedule to do 337 00:13:28,069 --> 00:13:26,399 those uh other tests and second of all 338 00:13:30,470 --> 00:13:28,079 for our viewers back in el paso who 339 00:13:32,870 --> 00:13:30,480 aren't scientists and engineers um just 340 00:13:35,030 --> 00:13:32,880 explain how difficult it is to have a 341 00:13:37,590 --> 00:13:35,040 success uh to have a test this 342 00:13:38,470 --> 00:13:37,600 successful 343 00:13:41,350 --> 00:13:38,480 um 344 00:13:43,590 --> 00:13:41,360 let's see i'll try okay all right i can 345 00:13:46,550 --> 00:13:43,600 i can start off okay um 346 00:13:49,030 --> 00:13:46,560 this year uh we we have guidance in our 347 00:13:51,509 --> 00:13:49,040 appropriations language that we are that 348 00:13:53,670 --> 00:13:51,519 we are executing the program on track 349 00:13:56,230 --> 00:13:53,680 with the work that's underway so our 350 00:13:58,949 --> 00:13:56,240 our uh this test is a part of that we 351 00:14:01,750 --> 00:13:58,959 have other tests that are going on and 352 00:14:04,150 --> 00:14:01,760 we're we're operating the program 353 00:14:05,750 --> 00:14:04,160 and and planning the planning is in 354 00:14:08,069 --> 00:14:05,760 place for tests 355 00:14:10,790 --> 00:14:08,079 so that is that is our direction we we 356 00:14:14,470 --> 00:14:10,800 do have a the the president's budget 357 00:14:17,590 --> 00:14:14,480 request for fy11 that would change 358 00:14:19,590 --> 00:14:17,600 our programs so um you know we're 359 00:14:21,910 --> 00:14:19,600 working right now between the 360 00:14:24,069 --> 00:14:21,920 administration and congress on on what 361 00:14:27,430 --> 00:14:24,079 resolution is on on 362 00:14:29,670 --> 00:14:27,440 on the path forward so that's that's yet 363 00:14:32,069 --> 00:14:29,680 to be uh seen but the planning is in 364 00:14:34,710 --> 00:14:32,079 place um all these types of tests are 365 00:14:36,870 --> 00:14:34,720 very important um the various conditions 366 00:14:39,030 --> 00:14:36,880 that that don talked about you want to 367 00:14:42,629 --> 00:14:39,040 test in all the critical conditions uh 368 00:14:45,110 --> 00:14:42,639 going down the road um in in developing 369 00:14:46,710 --> 00:14:45,120 uh launch launch systems in the future 370 00:14:47,910 --> 00:14:46,720 and 371 00:14:49,829 --> 00:14:47,920 you're going to need to do those kind of 372 00:14:50,629 --> 00:14:49,839 tests 373 00:14:54,949 --> 00:14:50,639 one 374 00:14:57,750 --> 00:14:54,959 doing the test at ground zero 375 00:14:59,829 --> 00:14:57,760 ground zero or from the ground 376 00:15:00,949 --> 00:14:59,839 and getting the crew back under shoots 377 00:15:03,350 --> 00:15:00,959 um 378 00:15:05,670 --> 00:15:03,360 it's uh that's a big test this condition 379 00:15:19,189 --> 00:15:05,680 that you saw today was is really a very 380 00:15:24,790 --> 00:15:22,790 that's it's hard to predict how how well 381 00:15:26,389 --> 00:15:24,800 tests will go that's why you do them 382 00:15:30,629 --> 00:15:26,399 you're testing out things in order to 383 00:15:33,189 --> 00:15:30,639 make sure you understand them and so 384 00:15:35,670 --> 00:15:33,199 but a test like this that that goes this 385 00:15:37,910 --> 00:15:35,680 well is just a tribute to the hard work 386 00:15:39,910 --> 00:15:37,920 and and thinking of every possible angle 387 00:15:41,670 --> 00:15:39,920 of things that might go wrong and and 388 00:15:43,749 --> 00:15:41,680 that's a tribute to the team that has 389 00:15:45,910 --> 00:15:43,759 worked through this and worked out bugs 390 00:15:48,550 --> 00:15:45,920 in the system worked out 391 00:15:51,350 --> 00:15:48,560 hardware issues along the way 392 00:15:52,870 --> 00:15:51,360 and it's just it's just preparation but 393 00:15:54,550 --> 00:15:52,880 there are still unknowns in testing and 394 00:15:57,110 --> 00:15:54,560 that's why you do the test so you can't 395 00:16:00,150 --> 00:15:57,120 predict but you see what you see what a 396 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,590 anymore 397 00:16:06,470 --> 00:16:05,509 steve ramirez with the las cruces sun 398 00:16:08,470 --> 00:16:06,480 news 399 00:16:10,230 --> 00:16:08,480 just wanted to ask particularly don i 400 00:16:11,910 --> 00:16:10,240 was interested in this the wind seemed 401 00:16:14,150 --> 00:16:11,920 to be up here a little bit today and i 402 00:16:15,430 --> 00:16:14,160 remember in a briefing about a week ago 403 00:16:18,470 --> 00:16:15,440 10 days ago 404 00:16:21,030 --> 00:16:18,480 someone had mentioned that wind is uh 405 00:16:24,310 --> 00:16:21,040 is the worst enemy want to know how that 406 00:16:26,150 --> 00:16:24,320 factored into into today's test at all 407 00:16:27,590 --> 00:16:26,160 uh secondary question for for for the 408 00:16:29,829 --> 00:16:27,600 panel is 409 00:16:32,069 --> 00:16:29,839 if you could can you try to put it into 410 00:16:34,150 --> 00:16:32,079 into perspective how 411 00:16:35,269 --> 00:16:34,160 monumental i guess uh 412 00:16:37,509 --> 00:16:35,279 this type of 413 00:16:40,230 --> 00:16:37,519 success was for the test today and and 414 00:16:42,550 --> 00:16:40,240 what it means to the nasa program 415 00:16:44,230 --> 00:16:42,560 okay so so on the weather steve we we've 416 00:16:46,310 --> 00:16:44,240 had the weather working against us from 417 00:16:49,189 --> 00:16:46,320 day one you know being out here you've 418 00:16:50,949 --> 00:16:49,199 seen the snowstorms you guys have gotten 419 00:16:53,269 --> 00:16:50,959 you know the wind storms that we had a 420 00:16:55,670 --> 00:16:53,279 cat level a category one level hurricane 421 00:16:57,749 --> 00:16:55,680 here i mean we had winds in excess of 80 422 00:16:58,629 --> 00:16:57,759 not so so the weather has not been our 423 00:17:03,110 --> 00:16:58,639 friend 424 00:17:04,789 --> 00:17:03,120 and so yeah we had some challenges early 425 00:17:06,630 --> 00:17:04,799 this morning in terms of getting our 426 00:17:08,069 --> 00:17:06,640 thermal protective cover off we were 427 00:17:10,069 --> 00:17:08,079 right at the limit that we were able to 428 00:17:11,590 --> 00:17:10,079 successfully do that 429 00:17:13,990 --> 00:17:11,600 and then for some reason i mean the 430 00:17:16,150 --> 00:17:14,000 winds right about about an hour before 431 00:17:19,829 --> 00:17:16,160 launch the upper level winds just almost 432 00:17:22,069 --> 00:17:19,839 went calm up to about 12 000 feet 433 00:17:24,150 --> 00:17:22,079 and so we had rehearsed this quite a bit 434 00:17:25,110 --> 00:17:24,160 the last couple days and we've had many 435 00:17:27,189 --> 00:17:25,120 meetings 436 00:17:28,150 --> 00:17:27,199 with uh mark and his mission management 437 00:17:29,750 --> 00:17:28,160 team 438 00:17:31,590 --> 00:17:29,760 going through and rehearsing you know 439 00:17:33,190 --> 00:17:31,600 you know what is an acceptable risk for 440 00:17:35,270 --> 00:17:33,200 these wins because we knew 441 00:17:37,350 --> 00:17:35,280 it was going to be a challenge and 442 00:17:40,150 --> 00:17:37,360 we had a few exceedances in our wind 443 00:17:42,310 --> 00:17:40,160 placard when we first started and by the 444 00:17:44,549 --> 00:17:42,320 time we got the launch we were green all 445 00:17:46,870 --> 00:17:44,559 the way up 446 00:17:50,470 --> 00:17:46,880 so so the weather 447 00:17:54,789 --> 00:17:52,150 i could say relative to the to the 448 00:17:59,190 --> 00:17:54,799 importance of the test um 449 00:18:01,029 --> 00:17:59,200 so relative to the launch abort um 450 00:18:02,789 --> 00:18:01,039 technology obviously was very important 451 00:18:04,470 --> 00:18:02,799 for that it got us the next step of 452 00:18:06,710 --> 00:18:04,480 saying we can put these complex systems 453 00:18:10,230 --> 00:18:06,720 together under high loads 454 00:18:12,549 --> 00:18:10,240 high acoustics and they perform so it it 455 00:18:14,470 --> 00:18:12,559 reduces the test we need to do forward 456 00:18:15,669 --> 00:18:14,480 relative to that but i think it's bigger 457 00:18:18,310 --> 00:18:15,679 than that 458 00:18:19,990 --> 00:18:18,320 there's a lot going on in orion uh and 459 00:18:22,150 --> 00:18:20,000 in constellation that you don't see 460 00:18:24,390 --> 00:18:22,160 because there's no fire and smoke 461 00:18:26,390 --> 00:18:24,400 all right we're welding a crew module at 462 00:18:27,669 --> 00:18:26,400 michoud in louisiana right we're flying 463 00:18:29,029 --> 00:18:27,679 an air 464 00:18:31,029 --> 00:18:29,039 rendezvous and docking sensor on the 465 00:18:32,390 --> 00:18:31,039 shuttle later this year we're 466 00:18:33,830 --> 00:18:32,400 firing a 467 00:18:36,470 --> 00:18:33,840 first stage 468 00:18:37,830 --> 00:18:36,480 later this year we're going to do 469 00:18:40,150 --> 00:18:37,840 we finished our preliminary design for 470 00:18:41,190 --> 00:18:40,160 software all those are key things that 471 00:18:43,110 --> 00:18:41,200 people are 472 00:18:45,190 --> 00:18:43,120 killing themselves working hard every 473 00:18:46,710 --> 00:18:45,200 day because they believe america should 474 00:18:49,029 --> 00:18:46,720 be a leader in space 475 00:18:50,549 --> 00:18:49,039 so a test like this 476 00:18:53,029 --> 00:18:50,559 which goes great 477 00:18:55,110 --> 00:18:53,039 and and is visible 478 00:18:57,270 --> 00:18:55,120 i think really is a is a great uh 479 00:19:00,710 --> 00:18:57,280 encouragement for the team 480 00:19:02,870 --> 00:19:00,720 and uh and talking about a very visible 481 00:19:05,750 --> 00:19:02,880 success for the team so it helps in that 482 00:19:10,470 --> 00:19:05,760 as far as morale in that sense too 483 00:19:14,390 --> 00:19:12,310 i'll need the phone 484 00:19:16,390 --> 00:19:14,400 uh steve i may add to that one of my 485 00:19:17,590 --> 00:19:16,400 favorite quotes is from uh 486 00:19:21,669 --> 00:19:17,600 lillian 487 00:19:24,310 --> 00:19:21,679 that actually died flying one of his own 488 00:19:26,310 --> 00:19:24,320 planes and he said to design something 489 00:19:27,990 --> 00:19:26,320 is nothing to build it is not much the 490 00:19:29,029 --> 00:19:28,000 flight is everything 491 00:19:31,510 --> 00:19:29,039 and so 492 00:19:33,510 --> 00:19:31,520 like i said the proof is in the pudding 493 00:19:34,789 --> 00:19:33,520 and this is where it all comes together 494 00:19:36,470 --> 00:19:34,799 and that's what makes this such a 495 00:19:38,070 --> 00:19:36,480 monumental success 496 00:19:40,470 --> 00:19:38,080 because this system survived in the 497 00:19:43,590 --> 00:19:40,480 flight environment and everything worked 498 00:19:45,430 --> 00:19:43,600 as we predicted that it would 499 00:19:47,110 --> 00:19:45,440 so that that goes to that's a testament 500 00:19:50,230 --> 00:19:47,120 to our ability to 501 00:19:52,549 --> 00:19:50,240 use our analytical tools to predict 502 00:19:53,750 --> 00:19:52,559 uh what we expect to happen the testing 503 00:19:55,909 --> 00:19:53,760 that we do 504 00:19:57,510 --> 00:19:55,919 all comes together and gives us high 505 00:19:59,430 --> 00:19:57,520 confidence that it's all going to work 506 00:20:00,950 --> 00:19:59,440 as a system 507 00:20:03,029 --> 00:20:00,960 so we get a lot of confidence in our 508 00:20:06,470 --> 00:20:03,039 ability to to 509 00:20:09,510 --> 00:20:06,480 make sure we're successful 510 00:20:13,029 --> 00:20:11,110 with none here locally we'll take a 511 00:20:16,789 --> 00:20:13,039 couple calls on the line i understand 512 00:20:32,149 --> 00:20:20,310 hi can you hear me yes 513 00:20:32,159 --> 00:20:41,830 okay go ahead try again mark 514 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:46,630 mark are you on the line there 515 00:20:51,909 --> 00:20:48,470 let's go ahead and try the next person 516 00:20:59,750 --> 00:20:53,669 according to the target mouse and 517 00:21:04,390 --> 00:21:01,430 go ahead tarek 518 00:21:06,070 --> 00:21:04,400 thank you my question is mr reed uh you 519 00:21:09,110 --> 00:21:06,080 mentioned that 520 00:21:11,669 --> 00:21:09,120 uh the the capital landed uh uh at a 521 00:21:13,110 --> 00:21:11,679 lower uh rate than you expected i was 522 00:21:16,789 --> 00:21:13,120 just curious if you go over those 523 00:21:18,710 --> 00:21:16,799 numbers for us at this time um 524 00:21:20,789 --> 00:21:18,720 you know how uh how long was the point 525 00:21:23,350 --> 00:21:20,799 how far down the lane 526 00:21:25,029 --> 00:21:23,360 uh what was that race of landing on 527 00:21:26,149 --> 00:21:25,039 parachutes and how did that stack up to 528 00:21:27,190 --> 00:21:26,159 your 529 00:21:29,669 --> 00:21:27,200 thank you 530 00:21:32,390 --> 00:21:29,679 yeah so in terms of the performance and 531 00:21:33,909 --> 00:21:32,400 the trajectory we went about 6 900 feet 532 00:21:35,669 --> 00:21:33,919 down range so we actually went a little 533 00:21:37,270 --> 00:21:35,679 further down range a little higher than 534 00:21:39,029 --> 00:21:37,280 we predicted 535 00:21:42,870 --> 00:21:39,039 in terms of the uh the touchdown 536 00:21:45,669 --> 00:21:42,880 velocity we had predicted out to uh 97 537 00:21:48,789 --> 00:21:45,679 percent probability that we'd landed 33 538 00:21:51,350 --> 00:21:48,799 feet per second on on the 97th percent 539 00:21:52,789 --> 00:21:51,360 high side we actually touched down at 24 540 00:21:55,029 --> 00:21:52,799 feet per second 541 00:21:58,070 --> 00:21:55,039 and so that that's good performance it 542 00:22:00,149 --> 00:21:58,080 shows good performance of the parachutes 543 00:22:02,630 --> 00:22:00,159 and uh i think that answers your 544 00:22:04,230 --> 00:22:02,640 question was there one other part there 545 00:22:07,510 --> 00:22:04,240 how long was the fight 546 00:22:09,669 --> 00:22:07,520 oh yeah the flight was uh just it was a 547 00:22:11,909 --> 00:22:09,679 minute and 35 seconds to touch down and 548 00:22:12,870 --> 00:22:11,919 we had predicted a minute and 39 seconds 549 00:22:17,110 --> 00:22:12,880 so 550 00:22:21,190 --> 00:22:18,950 do you have another question tara 551 00:22:22,710 --> 00:22:21,200 i think he is my follow-up was just i'm 552 00:22:25,350 --> 00:22:22,720 curious 553 00:22:28,390 --> 00:22:25,360 given the performance that you saw today 554 00:22:31,190 --> 00:22:28,400 what an astronaut or a crew would feel 555 00:22:34,070 --> 00:22:31,200 uh i guess how how top of a 556 00:22:36,470 --> 00:22:34,080 an escape it would be on on them given 557 00:22:38,549 --> 00:22:36,480 the g-forces as you saw today thank you 558 00:22:40,950 --> 00:22:38,559 and so i'll caveat that by saying that 559 00:22:42,630 --> 00:22:40,960 this this is a high thrust motor the 560 00:22:44,710 --> 00:22:42,640 design we were going to is actually 561 00:22:46,549 --> 00:22:44,720 going to be a lower thrust motor but for 562 00:22:48,149 --> 00:22:46,559 today's test 563 00:22:50,710 --> 00:22:48,159 given the temperatures that we launched 564 00:22:52,070 --> 00:22:50,720 this motor at they would have seen 16 565 00:22:53,990 --> 00:22:52,080 g's 566 00:22:56,630 --> 00:22:54,000 so somebody like myself that weighs 567 00:23:00,390 --> 00:22:56,640 about 200 pounds would have weighed 3 568 00:23:02,549 --> 00:23:00,400 200 pounds under that 16 g load 569 00:23:05,029 --> 00:23:02,559 and so we hope to get that down to 570 00:23:07,590 --> 00:23:05,039 closer to 10 to 11 g's in the next 571 00:23:08,950 --> 00:23:07,600 generation abort motor 572 00:23:10,950 --> 00:23:08,960 it's like that's the design we've gone 573 00:23:13,909 --> 00:23:10,960 to reduce thrust to boat runner to get 574 00:23:19,029 --> 00:23:13,919 those g's down again right 575 00:23:22,710 --> 00:23:21,029 thank you very much okay thank you we'll 576 00:23:30,310 --> 00:23:22,720 try back is mark kirkman back on the 577 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:34,630 mark are you there 578 00:23:40,230 --> 00:23:36,390 okay are there any follow-ups here 579 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,870 all right 580 00:23:47,430 --> 00:23:44,789 sir 581 00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:47,440 steve ramirez with the sun use again uh 582 00:23:56,149 --> 00:23:53,590 soon i hope 583 00:23:58,230 --> 00:23:56,159 we're working on working the plan okay 584 00:23:59,990 --> 00:23:58,240 thank you gentlemen for joining us today